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Withoutabox and Sundance – Pay Attention Filmmakers!

Posted in festivals, Making Movies with tags , , , , , , , , , , on July 2, 2009 by Tom McIntire

If you’re like me on Withoutabox, you crank in several festival entries, print out the instructions and mail off one or two DVDs to the festivals of your choice. Easy peasy. But read the instructions! Usually I just check to see how many DVDs they want, burn ’em, label ’em and stuff them in hopefully the right envelope before cycling off to the post office. I noticed that Sundance had lots more instructobabble than the others. I see my chances of getting into Sundance on a par with winning the lottery but you can’t win if you don’t play. The worst thing to do when entering any festival (or submitting your work to an agent, grant agency, production company or management team) is to give them an excuse to toss your entry in the trash. They are getting swamped with entries – your musical version of Citizen Kane may be the next big thing but it won’t be if you don’t follow their instructions. No one will see it except the guys at the landfill. I wound up tearing open my entry and redoing it to meet their standards. Now at least I know that I didn’t just toss that entry fee into the fire.

I’m not going to tell you how Sundance is different because you should read the most up-to-date instructions when you submit your project. What I will say is they use received dates rather than postmark dates AND it is much cheaper to enter now than later – but there’s more that you need to watch. Spend your entry fee money wisely.

The Trivialization of

Posted in Making Movies, Rants with tags , , , , , , , , on April 13, 2009 by Tom McIntire

Amazon owns and recently purchased, a great site for managing and submitting your scripts and films to film festivals. Amazon also owns, an easy-to-use self-publishing site for books, CDs and DVDs. Like many filmmakers starting out, I cussed and complained about how difficult it was to get my short film projects onto the go-to source for all things film, The Internet Movie Database (IMDB) had very selective criteria for adding a title. The eligibility rules are still the same but a few new loopholes have been added to help synchronize the corporate synergies and to help you get your film out there.

As I was working on my festival submissions for Greenspoke on, I noticed some new options popping up after the Amazon purchase of the site. You could set up a createspace DVD print-on demand account that was tied to your withoutabox account. Cool. If you’re not into burning a DVD yourself for every festival submission, you can pay a bit and have them do it for you. This also makes your title available on Because of the fees that createspace and Amazon take from your DVD sales, it is extremely difficult to set a realistic price point for a short film DVD. Your 10 minute short is going to run close to $10 and you won’t see a dime of that. Jack up the price and you are pricing your product higher than what people expect to pay. It is still nice to have your film on Amazon as a promotional aid. You also meet one of the eligibility criteria for inclusion in IMDB by making your title available on Your film could be 10 minutes of your cat sleeping, never show in any theatre or on television, not include any known actors or actresses, and it would be eligible for inclusion in what is supposed the definitive internet movie reference.

But wait – there really is more. Withoutabox recently added a group of partner festivals that make your film eligible for inclusion on IMDB. Sounds great except all you have to do is submit your film and pay the fee. You don’t have to be accepted to the festival or meet any other criteria. As long as you take the time out to fill in the confusing submission form on IMDB and enter the code you get from withoutbox, you’re good to go. Again, your 10 minutes of kitty zz’s is listed alongside Citizen Kane, Sunrise and Watchmen. I received at least 5 e-mails from withoutabox about getting Greenspoke on IMDB, most after I already had a page, because I had submitted to one of their partner festivals. While I hope to be accepted at all of them, that doesn’t seem to matter to IMDB.

Why am I complaining about this when it is working to my advantage? Because it is a short-term advantage. IMDB will lose its cachet as an authoritative reference if it gets clogged with titles that never were or never will be seen or sold. The internet is already a jungle of unreliable and misleading information for the intrepid entertainment traveler. Audiences drive our creative activities regardless of whether we create arthouse or megaplex fare.  Tools like IMDB help us reach our audience. I’d like to keep it as an authoritative reference for them and for us.